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No ARM emulator nor available device

Dear All,

  I've recently started developing an app for Tizen. My biggest concern about this is that I cannot really test an ARM build. There are no available devices available (obviously), no Development Units available, but at this point most disturbing is that the emulator runs only x86, no arm. So it is not possible to have a slightest clue about whether the app even runs or not on an actual device.
  And obviously here is the Tizen App Challenge, with a very close deadline. I wonder, how are we (app developers) expected to deliver a well-polished app under these circumstances?

Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions, I'll really appreciate them!

Zsolt

Edited by: Brock Boland on 17 Mar, 2014 Reason: Paragraph tags added automatically from tizen_format_fix module.
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MooChang Kim
Hi. I understand that there is no way to get Tizen mobile device at this moment. does your application uses ARM specific feature? like Neon or something? otherwise you can try Emulator anyway.. you can verify most of issues that may generated in the device as well. and in the last stage.. how about register your ARM app package to 'bugs.tizen.org' and asking help to test on the device? Regards
Zsolt Szatmari
No, no NEON or anything, it's just I have a bad feeling releasing something which has not been tested under real world circumstances. Plus, my experience with both iOS and Android suggest that almost anything can happen on the real thing, regardless of it's working fine in the emulator/simulator. (not 100% relevant here, but I even remember the iOS docs explicitly stating that the simulator is merely a convenience tool for development, and should not be used for testing) Any hint that we will get an x86 emulator in the following 1-2 months period? Good idea about bugs.tizen.org, I haven't thought about that! Did you have (or seen anyone have) success with that approach? I mean, that would not be technically a bug report... :-) If it's fine for them then it's good for me! Thank You!
Peter Wegner
Confirmed rumours are 2 Samsung test devices... RD-PQ based on I9300 and older RD-210... It seems to be possible to get testdevices... contact ... Samsung... Correct details I have forgotten... I can remember PaT also offer chance of test device"s"... All other rumours about Tizen are rumours... I9500 is Android device now... earlier rumours with Tizen... I8800 and I8805 actual rumours + latest rumour SM-Z9500... from Samsung... there are no release dates... no infos... nearly nothing... Also rumours about Tizen 3... and I think this year no Retail device because Tizen SDK + App store is also not 100 % ready for public... I hope MWC 2014 shows Retail devices with finished Tizen Version... ready for public launch. Best Regards P.S.: IFA in Berlin I expect nothing to see/hear about Tizen... :(
Peter Wegner
https://developer.tizen.org/support/development-unit-program ""Development Unit Program For more information, please contact Brian Warner""... This is all we have for now... Best Regards P.S.: SM-Z9500 is not new Tizen device... :) I've meant Z9005... my fault...
Zsolt Szatmari
Thanks for the info! Ummm... What does 'PaT' refer to? :)
Peter Wegner
PaT means this: http://www.tizenportathon.com/bada/main.do Sorry, I was too lazy. :) """Support measures include free TIZEN devices and 1:1 technical support,..""" Taken from here: http://www.tizenportathon.com/bada/about.do Best Regards
Zsolt Szatmari
Thanks for all the info! :-) I've got a reply from the PaT guys but they had no good news for me, but at least there was a chance :-)
Peter Wegner
Maybe Orange France is next ""chance"" for test device... Only stupid idea, because I saw some leaked info about Firmware from Orange... France is 1 of the 5 countries... Anyway... more leaked details: http://wap.samsungmobile.com/uaprof/GT-I8805.xml http://wap.samsungmobile.com/uaprof/SM-Z9005.xml Strange, SM-Z9005.xml seems removed now... anyway. Both are 720 x 1280 Pixel... Best Regards
Peter Wegner
Found old Blog about PaT... So testdevices are only Early Bird thingie... http://tizenblog.de/weitere-informationen-zum-tizen-port-a-thon/ Something about 600 devices... Hmmm, no idea. What actual status is... for test device. No idea how successfully contact here is: https://developer.tizen.org/support/development-unit-program Only idea is to ask on events in September... https://developer.tizen.org/forums/general-support/events Best Regards
Marco Buettner
Yeah, PaT-Member got a device if the give a very early feedback to particate on the contest. I got one device via PaT and one device of the development unit programm. On the last one they was available for 4 month 25 devices. You have to register and to write comprehensive application about you planed app for Tizen ;)
Peter Wegner
https://developer.tizen.org/support/development-unit-program/available-development-units 100 units of RD-PQ available. Thank you very much for this offer. Best Regards
Zsolt Szatmari
Wow, I thanks! I've submitted my request, now let's hope.
Peter Wegner
http://developer.samsung.com/remotetestlab/rtlDeviceList.action# [QUOTE]Tizen SDP(RD-PQ) is now available 2013-09-11 As of the 11th of September, the [B]Remote Test Lab[/B] now supports the Tizen platform. The Tizen SDP(RD-PQ) used, is based on the Tizen 2.2 version. RD-PQ is provided at the all location - Korea, UK, Poland, US and India server. When developing Tizen apps, the Tizen RTL is an invaluable free solution for your testing needs. To book a device, click the 'Tizen' tab on the Device List page. Thank you RTL Support[/QUOTE] Best Regards
Zsolt Szatmari
Thanks for another precious piece of info :)